Review: Rad-Air Tanker, Catek FR2 EVO, Vans Contra

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Review: Rad-Air Tanker, Catek FR2 EVO, Vans Contra

Postby bernwern » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:56 am

I will be adding to this as I have more time on it...but here is some initial feedback to pique your interest.

After searching since about last March for a new board, and spending lots of time on internet forums asking for feedback, plus seeking info all over the interwebs, I set my heart on my new board: 08/09 Rad-Air Tanker 200cm. The board came on 12/23/08. I had to wait another day for the bindings to arrive, then spend nearly 2 hours assembling and mounting them.

A couple setup notes and comparisons:
-The Catek FR2 is the stiffest, most responsive, most customizable soft-boot binding made.
-The Tanker is radically different from my Yukon: the nose, waist, and tail are all narrower. It is obviously much longer (32cm).
-The Tanker has a very large, single sidecut of 12.45M, whereas the Yukon had a quadratic sidecut ranging from around 7.5 to 9M (I don't have the exact stats).
-While I like the Salomon F22's and Malamutes more, Vans fit my feet and I need to have comfortable feet to ride....so I purchased the stiffest boot Vans has, the Contra. The liners in these are amazing, and even have interchangeble j-bars to adjust for better fit and heel-hold.
-The Tanker has a softer flex than my Yukon, what I would rate a 6 compared to an 8. This helps with board feel and manipulation.
-The Tanker, despite heavier bindings, weighs nearly the same as my Yukon setup. My Tanker, by itself, weighed in at 7.4 pounds!

Day one was only 1.5 hours on the slopes, as they closed early on Christmas Eve Day (I was disapointed they closed early, but understood). I had set my bindings to more Alpine angles, with 70° on my front foot and 40° on my rear foot. I also spread my stance 3cm wider, but compensated for this by adjusting the cant and tilt on the binding footbeds to allow my legs to sit more naturally. I learned very quickly that my ankles were too steep. I also learned my wider stance made my legs ache inside my knees, but over time I realized I would need to deal with this and my body would adjust (which it has). My ankle straps needed further extension as well. I quickly realized I wanted stiffer j-bars in my boots as well. But enough on the setup, how was the ride?

Well, it is hard to describe, or at least put into words. My best description to my long-time friends was this: imagine riding in my 99 Camry and think of it as my Yukon, and then think of riding in my 76 Torino and think of that as my Tanker. It is super stable, super comfortable, floats through everything, and when you point it downhill it accelerates like nothing I have ridden before. My only drawback on this setup is low-speed maneuvering, as it is harder to turn. Maybe the comfort and stability explains why after 5 days of riding, I failed to notice I had broken it :(

I inspect my equipment regularly, and with a 200cm board, everyone that sees you with it has a comment or question. After leaving the chalet and showing it to a few people, I took about 15 runs before heading to my car. It was there that I noticed a waffle in the base, which seemed to come from the die-cut graphics. After posting some pics online and getting feedback, plus inspecting the topsheet (where there was a hidden crack under the mounting plate), it was determined that my core failed and separated. Luckily for me, RJ sent me new board under warranty within a day and I should have it in the next day or two. What a relief!

After some changes to mounting angles, cant, tilt, forward-lean, straps, and my boot j-bars, I think I managed to dial in my stance. I have settled on 58° front foot and 32° rear foot. I rotated the highbacks as much as I felt would work, but sent feedback into Catek about improvements to the highback rotation system while possible lightening the binding. I dialed in the cant and tilt slightly more to match my new angles and feel very comfortable. I did notice that strapping into the FR2's is a bit harder only because there is no side-walls to guide your foot; once I got used to this, it was very easy to strap in.

My boots only needed a change to the j-bars and they were good to go. They have an internal quick-lace system on the liner plus a power-strap at the top to hold it even more secure. They have an extremely stiff shell, especially along the heel and ankle. They are BOA once again, but with the added boot and binding stiffness I can ratchet these tighter and worry less about blowing a lace. I was disappointed that they did not have the free replacement lace that my Fargo's came with.

I will say this: this setup is not for everyone. The length alone is intimidating, as it is longer than a triple chair is wide. You need to know how to carve on this or you are done....I am 6'2" and 230# with huge calves and quads and muscling this setup is a chore. The stiff and responsive bindings do not allow for mistakes, which I quickly found out .... you have no leeway, but when you want to move, it will respond instantly. Mistakes can be made, as the extra length provides some stability, but you need leg strength to correct and recover. Once I learned the feel of the board and dialed in my stance and settings, it has been a breeze! It took me about 12 hours of riding time to fully dial it in, and I got about another 12 before it broke, but those were some of the best hours I have spent on a board.

I went out yesterday at open and shewed up groomers on my old setup. John was there :) Very cold, but soft, fast, and blue-bird. Hardly anyone else out. I noticed the change immediately....I felt sloppier, slower, and couldn't rail turns like the Tanker. I did lay some really nice, deep heel-side carves up a slope by the chalet, but I thought how much further, deeper, and faster the Tanker would have been; those lines could still be seen 5 hours later when I left, despite heavy traffic to/from the chalet :) I am dying to get my replacement and can't wait to shred some more!

-B
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Postby bernwern » Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:08 pm

Well, I got my replacement board and put some time on it now....7 days, but only about 30 hours (evenings after work are a short 4 hours, after all). I must confess I was nervous about breaking it again...the serial number was only 2 higher than my first one, but RJ assured me all would be fine....and he was right.

Two of the days I rode it was below zero the entire time, including one day being about -20° (-30° with windchill). In cold temps, everything becomes more brittle and I rode hard. I rode hard a couple of the last few days when a gagillion grommets were in my way and had to dodge them....still no issues. I am greatly relieved and look forward to Montana even more....

So what can I add? Well, just a few notes after getting more time in to break-in, fine tune, and grow comfortable with my drastic changes. I am barely noticing the added response now (in regard to minor mistakes when shifting weight, torsioning the board, etc). I am noticing how much more I shift weight to carve...not leaning so much, as I am a bit afraid to lay it out and cut across a slope when there are so many moving gapers around; instead, I shift my weight across the board while keeping my upper body perpendicular to the slope. I know more weight would allow me to lay my carves out nearly parallel to the slope, and I have done a few on toesides on the only slope I am confident I won't tear someone a new rectum....but I also know I need to open up the speed more, another thing hindered by masses of asses in my way. I am a little gun-shy after being blind-sided 3 seasons ago and getting a mild concussion and a back sprain across 5 vertebrae.....you can never count on people behind you to anticipate your moves, especially if I were to try and cut across fall line laying out a deep carve....all the more reason to look forward to Montana! Even without letting it go all the way, this board easily slays any stick I have ridden, and consistently outruns anyone and anything around me. My boots are broke-in now and should stay in their current state for another 60-80 days of riding; the j-bars really do help stiffen the internal hold to match the exterior of the boot. I also noticed I can tighten the BOA laces further now without the usual pressure point, which is why i know they are broken in like my last pair of Vans were. The Catek's are just sick....super responsive, supportive, and yet very comfy. I have stopped trying to dial them in, because I got some good advice from RJ about how I will continually tweak, but ultimately realize I am constantly within 2% of being perfect and will probably never be there. I am comfortable but considering widening it by 1cm more.

I let my good buddy, Dusty, take it for a run. He is about 5'8", 165# with size 9's. His boots barely worked in my setup for 11.5's. He looked even more comical than I do strapped to a 200cm rocket on the chair :) His first comment? "It rides like a Cadillac!". He admits that it was alot smoother of a ride than imagined, but also alot easier to turn despite the length. He was impressed, but he felt he would have done better with binding angles similar to his own.

The comments are still incessant. I actually met a guy on the bar patio checking it over....he said his first board was a Rad-Air, like 10-12 years back. He loved it and was amazed by the weight, length, etc. I also met an alpine rider that was working at the time....he had alot of questions, but was also intrigued. The vast majority of comments are still "Holy crap, that thing is huge!" I simply reply "That's what she said" and move along....it's actually starting to get old, especially after hearing it so often. It's not like I go around saying "d***! your board is tiny!"

All in all I am happy. I wish I had more room to fully test it here, but I think that will come with more time. A couple days in Montana may change that in a hurry and give me the experience, skill, and confidence I need to blast it wide open.

I will add one update to this after Montana in a few weeks....then it will be complete :)

I hope this inspires some of you older free-riders to take a chance and get a "big-gun". If you like pow, carving, groomers, and speed, a longboard might be your next big purchase. Sure, you don't need to get a 200 like I did (Rj told me to get the 192, because everyone that does comes back to get the 200 the next season). Contact me if you want some recommendations...I looked at alot of boards before making my decision and you could easily ride something between a 170 and 200 and be surprised, yet happy.

-B
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Re: Review: Rad-Air Tanker, Catek FR2 EVO, Vans Contra

Postby SnowSurfr » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:56 pm

This is very interesting, I currently ride an arbor 167 wide and last season found a older model s-series in 174 which is the biggest board I've tried. I'm a big guy at 6ft and 250. I found the 174 screams on the groomers, I can carve at mach speed with total stability, like I gained a whole new gear over the 167. The 167 seems to work better in the crud or mashed potatoes. I recently read about the lib tech grocer and doughboy. after a search around the west coast on craigs list I found a new never mounted grocer 180 from about 4-5yrs ago. If only the washing machine hadn't broken, (only 6 yrs old top of the line front loading POS) and needed to be replaced and killed the deal :(
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