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  1. Paul
    September 4, 2008 @ 1:55 pm

    I just did a google for boycott burton and this is one of the results. Very good points, I like that someone who actually snowboards is against the blatant ‘gansta’ mentality of Jake Burton. He needs to get a grip and get his head right.

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  2. John@GraysOnTrays
    September 4, 2008 @ 4:56 pm

    Paul,

    Thanks for stopping by.

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  3. RDP
    October 16, 2008 @ 8:23 pm

    John –
    I think the Burtons have been corrupted by power, and I agree with you that their extremes are obnoxious. What I like about the Burton brand is its valuing of those who are different – who are outsiders, even pariahs. One could argue that our country was founded by a bunch of people who violated lots of British subjects’ property rights and lots of native americans’ property rights in ways far less excusable than trespassing and riding a snowboard in forbidden places. But the real point is that their right to say what they think and your right to respond and to boycott are both protected by our Constitution. I like the Burtons because they are mavericks and because the Burton brand welcomes and supports outsiders. In the process of tolerating differences, though, they have forgotten that we all owe tolerance to property owners as well as to gangsta shredders. When I wear my Burton t-shirt, I’m really saying I’m different and I respect differences. I’m not condoning a $5000 reward for a video of illegal rides. To me the Burton brand is synonymous with snowboarding. It’s different. It’s edgy. It’s way more fun than any other sport I’ve tried. I make cross-generational friends on chair-lifts and in my neighborhood because kids like my Burton Custom or notice my Burton shirt. It’s like the Mix-It-Up idea that’s been so successfully championed by TeachingTolerance.org. Basically, I’d rather talk to Jake Burton than arrest him for trespassing. I like Grays On Trays for the same reason. It’s different. It says riding is too much fun to be left to the kids. It says adults can do cool things and are willing to take calculated risks. It counters the Simpsons model of adulthood. It is also a community – one I’m proud to be part of and one you can be proud of creating. Rob

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  4. GraysOnTrays
    October 16, 2008 @ 8:37 pm

    Well, you certainly bring up a lot of points there, Rob. I agree that Burton has done a lot to create an industry and a sport, and that the European settler’s treatment of Indians was rather, well, it didn’t win any human rights awards. I share your admiration of our tradition of freedom of speech–a topic I could spend a lot of time writing about.

    Now, “tolerance” is a funny word these days. I’m not sure that respecting property rights is tolerance as much as it is respecting the law and, in effect, the engine (you earn, you keep) that drives our economy.

    I’m all for treating people with respect even if you disagree with them. But that doesn’t square with poaching.

    As for Burton welcoming outsiders? Which outsiders? And how has Burton welcomed the outsiders, whoever they are, more than other snowboarding companies?

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